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30
May
08

Video: “Beyond Fitna” Released

Beyond Fitna

H/T Myrtus via Larwyn
Myrtus’ oh so candid review. 😉

Iran’s response to Geert Wilders’ Fitna has been launched online today. It’s a real doozie! Yawwwwwn

TEHRAN — The documentary “Beyond Fitna” will be posted on the Internet today.

The film, which was directed by a group of Iranian filmmakers and produced by the Islam and Christianity Nongovernmental Organization, is a response to Dutch politician Geert Wilders’ anti-Islam documentary “Fitna”.

The film honors all monotheistic religions and gives a response to the anti-Islam propaganda of Western extremists, the NGO’s spokesman, Mohammad Karimi, told IRNA on Tuesday.

He said that the documentary was produced under the supervision of a group of religious scholars and Iranian professional documentarians in the English, Persian, and Arabic languages.

No commentary.
I already said my piece, in my previous post on the making of Beyond Fitna.
I’m not going to re-hash my thoughts here. No need.

Enough of the Beyond Fitna drivel. Here is the nitty gritty.

Educate yourselves!

The Defamation of Jesus Christ – RADARSITE
Cross posted

Al-Dajjal 05/22/08
We hear about ‘defamation of religions’ from the U.N.H.R.C. and in December of ’07, the U.N. General Assembly passed a resolution condemning it. We are familiar with Muslims complaining that their Prophet has been blasphemed. You are about to learn of Islam’s blasphemy concerning your Saviour. Gentle reader, put all fire, choke and spill hazards securely aside, this information may shock you. The Islamic Center of Pittsburgh: What do Muslims think about Jesus ?

Muslims respect and revere Jesus (P.B.U.H) and await his Second Coming. They consider him one of the greatest of God’s messengers to mankind. What does Islam’s canon of scripture say about Jesus? [Emphasis added.]
3:59
Verily, the likeness of ‘Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: “Be!” – and he was.
3:61
Then whoever disputes with you concerning him [‘Iesa (Jesus)] after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, [i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus)] being a slave of Allah, and having no share in Divinity)…
4:159
…And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him [‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allah and a human being]…
19:30
“He [‘Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;”
43:59
He [‘Iesa (Jesus)] was not more than a slave. We granted Our Favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel (i.e. his creation without a father).
23:91
. No son (or offspring or children) did Allah beget, nor is there any ilah (god) along with Him; …
4:157-158
And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,” – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‘Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]: But Allah raised him [‘Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All­Powerful, All­Wise.
61:14
O you who believe! Be you helpers (in the Cause) of Allah as said ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), to Al­Hawarîûn (the disciples): “Who are my helpers (in the Cause) of Allah?” Al­Hawarîeen (the disciples) said: “We are Allah’s helpers” (i.e. we will strive in His Cause!). Then a group of the Children of Israel believed and a group disbelieved. So We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the uppermost.

Tafsir Ibn Kathir: Allah Gives Victory to the Believing Group
…(So, We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the victorious (uppermost).) through the victory that Muhammad gained over the religion of the disbelievers, which brought the dominance of their religion.” This is the wording in his book for the Tafsir of this honorable Ayah. Similarly, An-Nasa’i collected this statement of Ibn `Abbas in his Sunan. Therefore, the Ummah of Muhammad will always be prevalent on the truth until Allah’s command (the Final Hour) commences, while they are on this path. The last group of them will fight against Ad-Dajjal along with `Isa, peace be on him, according to Hadiths in the authentic collections. I have now displayed to you proof from the Qur’an, Hilali & Khan’s translation [linked to nine parallel translations] that, according to Islam, Jesus was:
human
not divine
not the son of God
Alah’s slave
not crucified
not killed
not resurrected
a warrior Wait, there is more.
Sahih Bukhari 4.55.651
Narrated Abu Huraira:
I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “I am the nearest of all the people to the son of Mary, and all the prophets are paternal brothers, and there has been no prophet between me and him (i.e. Jesus).”Muhammad said that he is half brother to Jesus! Can he possibly top that one? This is a long hadith, but the full context is necessary to comprehending its enormity. The most essential clauses are highlighted.
Sahih Bukhari 6.60.236
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Some (cooked) meat was brought to Allah Apostle and the meat of a forearm was presented to him as he used to like it. He ate a morsel of it and said, “I will be the chief of all the people on the Day of Resurrection. Do you know the reason for it? Allah will gather all the human being of early generations as well as late generation on one plain so that the announcer will be able to make them all-hear his voice and the watcher will be able to see all of them. The sun will come so close to the people that they will suffer such distress and trouble as they will not be able to bear or stand. Then the people will say, ‘Don’t you see to what state you have reached? Won’t you look for someone who can intercede for you with your Lord’ Some people will say to some others, ‘Go to Adam.’ So they will go to Adam and say to him. ‘You are the father of mankind; Allah created you with His Own Hand, and breathed into you of His Spirit (meaning the spirit which he created for you); and ordered the angels to prostrate before you; so (please) intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are? Don’t you see what condition we have reached?’ Adam will say, ‘Today my Lord has become angry as He has never become before, nor will ever become thereafter. He forbade me (to eat of the fruit of) the tree, but I disobeyed Him . Myself! Myself! Myself! (has more need for intercession). Go to someone else; go to Noah.’ So they will go to Noah and say (to him), ‘O Noah! You are the first (of Allah’s Messengers) to the people of the earth, and Allah has named you a thankful slave; please intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?’ He will say.’ Today my Lord has become angry as He has never become nor will ever become thereafter. I had (in the world) the right to make one definitely accepted invocation, and I made it against my nation. Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Abraham.’ They will go to Abraham and say, ‘O Abraham! You are Allah’s Apostle and His Khalil from among the people of the earth; so please intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?’ He will say to them, ‘My Lord has today become angry as He has never become before, nor will ever become thereafter. I had told three lies (Abu Haiyan (the sub-narrator) mentioned them in the Hadith) Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Moses.’ The people will then go to Moses and say, ‘O Moses! You art Allah’s Apostle and Allah gave you superiority above the others with this message and with His direct Talk to you; (please) intercede for us with your Lord Don’t you see in what state we are?’ Moses will say, ‘My Lord has today become angry as He has never become before, nor will become thereafter, I killed a person whom I had not been ordered to kill. Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Jesus.’ So they will go to Jesus and say, ‘O Jesus! You are Allah’s Apostle and His Word which He sent to Mary, and a superior soul created by Him, and you talked to the people while still young in the cradle. Please intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?’ Jesus will say. ‘My Lord has today become angry as He has never become before nor will ever become thereafter. Jesus will not mention any sin, but will say, ‘Myself! Myself! Myself! Go to someone else; go to Muhammad.’ So they will come to me and say, ‘O Muhammad ! You are Allah’s Apostle and the last of the prophets, and Allah forgave your early and late sins. (Please) intercede for us with your Lord. Don’t you see in what state we are?” The Prophet added, “Then I will go beneath Allah’s Throne and fall in prostration before my Lord. And then Allah will guide me to such praises and glorification to Him as He has never guided anybody else before me. Then it will be said, ‘O Muhammad Raise your head. Ask, and it will be granted. Intercede It (your intercession) will be accepted.’ So I will raise my head and Say, ‘My followers, O my Lord! My followers, O my Lord’. It will be said, ‘O Muhammad! Let those of your followers who have no accounts, enter through such a gate of the gates of Paradise as lies on the right; and they will share the other gates with the people.” The Prophet further said, “By Him in Whose Hand my soul is, the distance between every two gate-posts of Paradise is like the distance between Mecca and Busra (in Sham).” Muhammad has cast himself as superior to Jesus! Notice the chain of succession of prophets, Muhammad, being the final prophet, is superior.

I have saved the worst for last. What will Jesus do when he returns? Bukhari’s collection of authentic hadith is informative.
Sahih Bukhari 3.34.425
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts. What is the meaning of break the cross and kill the pig? Can it mean anything less than the destruction of Judiasm & Christianity? If you harbor such hope, you are sadly deluded, as you will see from this next tafsir.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir: Another Hadith
…He will break the cross, kill the pig, and banish the Jizyah and will call the people to Islam. During his time, Allah will destroy all religions except Islam and Allah will destroy Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal (the False Messiah)…. Can it possibly get any worse? They claim that Jesus was totally human, not divine, not God’s son and that he will destroy Christianity. What is worse than that. Genocide! Islam teaches that Jesus will commit genocide! I discovered this information by following a link in an article by Ibn Misr at Sons Of Apes And Pigs. I will quote an ayat, followed by Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir of that ayat, which makes my case beyond any doubt. .
7:167
And (remember) when your Lord declared that He would certainly keep on sending against them (i.e. the Jews), till the Day of Resurrection, those who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. Verily, your Lord is Quick in Retribution (for the disobedient, wicked) and certainly He is Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful (for the obedient and those who beg Allah’s Forgiveness). Allah will torment the Jews, so? Until the Day of Resurrection; then what happens? The tafsir has a shocking revelation.
Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir: Eternal Humiliation Placed on the Jews
…Isa, son of Mary, will kill the Jews. This will occur just before the end of this world….Do you fully comprehend what you have just read? Another hadith will provide some clarity.
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177
Sahih Bukhari 4.52.177
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”Muslims must hunt down and kill the last Jew as a prerequisite to entering Paradise to enjoy their Houris & rivers of wine. And Jesus Christ will lead them in that bloody battle. To summarize Islam’s characterization of our Saviour:
human
not divine
not the son of God
Alah’s slave
not crucified
not killed
not resurrected
Muhammad’s inferior half brother
a warrior
genocidal
destroyer of Christianity. Exactly what grounds does Islam have for complaint of blasphemy???

Please print this article and give a copy to your Priest, Pastor or Rabbi. They need to be informed, to understand the true nature of Islam; it is not the innocent, touchy~feeley equal pathway to God portrayed by the multiculturalists. Permission to cross post, print and distribute this article is granted, it is placed in the public domain.
~ Roger W. Gardner – RADARSITE

Related:
Out of time: Radical Islam Taking Over Europe & West
“Europe’s Speechless, Frantic Surrender”
UAC Documentary “An Inconvenient Religion”
Another Islamic / UN Obscenity
IHEU “ambushed” by Whiny Sanctimonious Islamists at Human Rights Council
The Vast Islamic Conspiracy
The United Caliphate of The United Nations
The UN Has Lost Their Dhimmi Status…
Islam 101
Islam Religion of Peace
New Edited Version of ‘Fitna’
Geert Wilders Editing Fitna – Stay Tuned
LiveLeak Pulls Fitna: “Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature”
Fitna has arrived!
Imagine…
Video: Geert Wilders Interview on Danish Television
Fitna? or No Fitna?

14
May
08

Belgium: Police Protection for a 17th Century Pulpit

Thanks to the “Religion of Peace”

This quote from “Rudy” comes to mind.

“No one, and I mean no one, comes into our house and pushes us around.”

Police Protection for “Mohammed Pulpit”

Brussels Journal

Belgian police is protecting a 17th century pulpit in the Flemish town of Dendermonde. The pulpit in the Catholic church of Our Lady dates from 1685, two years after the battle of Vienna when the Christian armies of the Polish King John III Sobieski defeated the Turks poised to overrun Europe. The sculpted wooden pulpit, made by Mattheus van Beveren, depicts a man subdued by angels and represents the triumph of Christianity over Islam. The man is generally thought to be Mohammed. He is holding a book which is generally assumed to be the Koran.

Two years ago, on April 16, 2006, during the height of the Danish cartoon affair, this website published a photo of the pulpit to show that there is a long tradition of depicting Mohammed in European iconography. Last Friday the Turkish newspaper Yeniçag reprinted our picture on its front page with the caption “Stop this hideous insult.” Yeniçag demands that Belgium remove the pulpit. The paper writes that “We have had the crusades and now they are still trying to humiliate us. This is as bad as the Danish cartoons and Geert Wilders’s Fitna movie in the Netherlands. Even Pope Benedict does nothing to stop these humiliations.

Since Friday, we have received threats while the authorities in Belgium, which has a large population of Turkish immigrants, fear that the pulpit and the church may be attacked. The Belgian press reported today that the police is guarding Dendermonde’s Our Lady church to prevent vandalism to church and pulpit.[…]

[…]Meanwhile, radical Muslims in Italy are still demanding the destruction of an early Renaissance fresco in Bologna’s Church of San Petronio, painted by Giovanni da Modena in 1415. The fresco depicts Mohammed being tortured in Hell.

Continued.

More here also at the Brussels Journal:

Flemish 17th Century Pulpit Offends Turks

You may also enjoy browsing the “Mohammed Image Archive” @ Zombie Time
Depictions of Mohammed Throughout History
The Mohammed Image Archive is a compendium of images that depict Mohammed (the 7th-century founder of Islam), spanning all historical periods, cultures and genres.

The inspiration for this Archive came from the global controversy over the publication of Mohammed cartoons in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten, and the need for a comprehensive and even-handed look at the wide variety of Mohammed depictions in Islamic and Western societies from the Middle Ages until today. It will remain online as a resource for those interested in freedom of expression. (Please note that the Arabic name “Mohammed” has over the years been transliterated into Western languages with several different spellings — some of which you’ll encounter on this site — including Mahomet, Muhammad, and Mohamed.)

09
Apr
08

Fitna New [Edited] Version

Also see this great post “The Left and Fitna” – Kruisvaarder’s Weblog

Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Abul Kasem, an ex-Muslim who is the author of hundreds of articles and several books on Islam including, Women in Islam. He was a contributor to the book Leaving Islam – Apostates Speak Out as well as to Beyond Jihad: Critical Views From Inside Islam.

Previously:

“Beyond Fitna”

Fitna has arrived! [update 2]

Islamophobia? Don’t Shoot the Messenger

Islam 101

Muslims Across Europe Unite Against Extremism

An Open Mind

The religion of fear – Pat Condell

Out of time: Radical Islam Taking Over Europe & West

07
Apr
08

“Beyond Fitna”

Iran’s counter punch to Geert Wilders film Fitna is to make an anti-Christian film. What a bunch of hypocritical jackals.

Iran planning to shoot anti-Christian film

(PanARMENIAN.Net) Stung by a Dutch lawmaker’s graphic documentary depicting barbaric acts carried out in the name of Islam and the Koran, an Iranian film organization says it is producing a counter-documentary, “Beyond Fitna.”

Iran’s FARS news agency reports the film focuses on “orders given to worldwide Christians in the (distorted) version of the Bible for stoking violence, committing genocide, attacking others, beheading and burning women and children who have been taken into captivity.

Those acts are committed by Christians daily. Silly me… did I just say Christians? What a slip of the tongue. I meant Muslims.

The Iranian film announcement comes a week after far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders released his 17-minute film, “Fitna” in the Web.

The release of “Fitna” on March 27 sparked noisy protests from Islamic groups and leaders – some threatening Wilders with death – and the United Nations and several nations called for the removal of the film from video Web sites such as Google and YouTube, FOX News reports

Iranian parliament speaker Gholamali Haddadadel called on his country’s citizens to boycott Dutch goods. European states will leave the road if they see threat to their economy,” he said.

The upcoming film will follow on the tail of the other Iranian anti-Christian film “Islamic Jesus”

TEHRAN (AFP) — A director who shares the ideas of Iran’s hardline president has produced what he says is the first film giving an Islamic view of Jesus Christ, in a bid to show the “common ground” between Muslims and Christians.

Nader Talebzadeh sees his movie, “Jesus, the Spirit of God,” as an Islamic answer to Western productions like Mel Gibson’s 2004 blockbuster “The Passion of the Christ,” which he praised as admirable but quite simply “wrong“.

“Gibson’s film is a very good film. I mean that it is a well-crafted movie but the story is wrong — it was not like that,” he said, referring to two key differences: Islam sees Jesus as a prophet, not the son of God, and does not believe he was crucified.

The film, funded by state broadcasting, …

Gotta love that “common ground” Heh.

[…]Iran called it (Fitna) aprovocative and Satanic” act.

Could they be any more supercilious?

Spit!

Cross posted from Ironic Surrealism II

Related:
Out of time: Radical Islam Taking Over Europe & West
“Europe’s Speechless, Frantic Surrender”
UAC Documentary “An Inconvenient Religion”
Another Islamic / UN Obscenity
IHEU “ambushed” by Whiny Sanctimonious Islamists at Human Rights Council
The Vast Islamic Conspiracy
The United Caliphate of The United Nations
The UN Has Lost Their Dhimmi Status…
Islam 101
Islam Religion of Peace
Geert Wilders Editing Fitna – Stay Tuned
LiveLeak Pulls Fitna: “Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature”
Imagine…
Video: Geert Wilders Interview on Danish Television
Fitna? or No Fitna?

31
Mar
08

The religion of fear – Pat Condell

31
Mar
08

Fitna has arrived! [update 2]

The long awaited arrival of Geert Wilders film “Fitna” has come to pass.
Watch it now.

Edit: Son of a bitch! It has already been flagged at Daily Motion and one must be logged in to view it. So watching it on my site is out. I’ll be right back. After I upload it with a video account of mine.

Update: LiveLeak Pulls Fitna: “Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature”

Update 2: Fitna is back up at Live Leak!!!!

Google still has it up…

Done!

Vodpod videos no longer available. from www.liveleak.com posted with vodpod

Live Leak speaks

LiveLeak.com has a strict stance on remaining unbiased and allowing freedom of speech as so far as the law and our rules allow. There was no legal reason to refuse Geert Wilders the right to post his film (Fitna) on LiveLeak.com and it is not our place to censor people based on an emotive response. We in no way endorse Geert Wilders, his views, nor the views expressed within Fitna. To many of us involved in LiveLeak.com some of the messages therein are personally offensive. That being said, our being offended is no reason to deny Mr Wilders the right to have his film seen. Pre-emptive censorship or a discriminatory policy towards freedom of speech are both things we oppose here on LiveLeak.com. A person has a simple, clear choice about whether to view this film. No one is being forced to view it and nor is it being broadcasted on every channel on their television set. If you click on media simply to be annoyed, it is pointless to blame others for your choice.

We do not intend on defending the content of Fitna, only our choice to allow it. Anyone has the full right of reply on LiveLeak.com. Any person or organizations are free to post their opinion and, dependent on said response falling within both the law and our rules, we will afford such responses equal exposure. There are undoubtedly better ways to spark a discussion but this film is now out there and we believe we should all grasp this opportunity to create an open dialogue and discussion on this subject.

Hot Air

Update: A tipster tells me this is the torrent. I’m not vouching for it. I haven’t downloaded it. Proceed at your own risk.

Update: All right, the torrent worked like a charm. When I first started downloading, there were something like eight people sharing. By the time I was done, it was 61. The movie will be all over the world in hours. Internet fee-vah!

I’ll not vouch for the torrent either. D/L at you own risk. lol -Scarlett

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